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Former aide Cassidy Hutchinson testifies on Jan. 6 warnings, pardon requests, and Trump trying to grab the wheel

Former aide Cassidy Hutchinson testifies on Jan. 6 warnings, pardon requests, and Trump trying to grab the wheel

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tháng 6 30, 2022

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<div dir="ltr"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh51TMYjJmd2VMq2grnnWO2rPZsmngttajJE47LHMWduAYe5hysrV7V9EjDTQR7vP4jjurjFDF7n5ffwAf_pc5E9EVwAOt30h7yqLBqGMJ9Oh-EM3q0cRpDpLsECGugHhMo4KF1_qtNUKRWUuGfMfyMnuL8kx8nxSwXANkMT0_ZCpIKA5mZ8bODop48dQ"><img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_7114837087710102818" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh51TMYjJmd2VMq2grnnWO2rPZsmngttajJE47LHMWduAYe5hysrV7V9EjDTQR7vP4jjurjFDF7n5ffwAf_pc5E9EVwAOt30h7yqLBqGMJ9Oh-EM3q0cRpDpLsECGugHhMo4KF1_qtNUKRWUuGfMfyMnuL8kx8nxSwXANkMT0_ZCpIKA5mZ8bODop48dQ=s320" /></a> A number of you have written in to say about the hearings, "No, that wasn't the big deal. This other thing was the big deal!" In almost every case I find myself agreeing with you. What it comes down to is there was just a huge amount of critical new detail in Hutchinson's testimony. And it was a challenge to evaluate the significance of it all in real time or organize it on a rank of significance. So TPM Reader KB notes that all the stuff about a war room at the Willard with Rudy and the top crazies starts appearing in a very, very different light if the plan was that Trump was going to go to the Capitol to in some sense lead the confrontation. It definitely seems like that wasn't just a possibility or something that was discussed but rather definitely Trump's plan and, one would imagine, what Rudy and his crew thought was going to happen.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/former-aide-cassidy-hutchinson.html" style="color:blue">Former aide Cassidy Hutchinson testifies on Jan. 6 warnings, pardon requests, and Trump trying to grab the wheel</a>TPM Reader EG says that the real news was Giuliani's role in the prep for January 6th. "The story centered around Giuliani and the preparation on the 2nd, as well as the set-up at The Willard. Trump had a very well-developed reason for wanting to grab the wheel. Sitting in the White House for 3 hours now is seen as the best he could do, having been thwarted by his Secret Service chief."See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/cnns-don-lemon-defends-questioning.html" style="color:blue">CNN's Don Lemon defends questioning Karine Jean-Pierre about Biden's mental fitness: 'It's our job'</a>We have this sense that Trump was there in the Oval Office watching the TVs, having a predatory thrill seeing the mob terrorize the folks who'd abandoned him. But Hutchinson's testimony makes it seem like he was probably pissed because his Secret Service detail had ruined the whole plan. He was supposed to be up at the Capitol not stuck back at the White House.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/msnbc-panel-wonders-if-ginni-thomas.html" style="color:blue">MSNBC panel wonders if Ginni Thomas should be 'perp-walked' by Jan. 6 Committee</a>Many of the things we've learned are things we basically already knew or strongly suspected. The difference is new testimony which adds more confirmation, something more like proof. The idea that Trump was dead set on going to the Capitol wasn't my understanding of this at all. So that at least is pretty new to me.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/joy-behar-says-view-changed-when-trump.html" style="color:blue">Joy Behar says 'The View' changed when Trump got elected: 'We used to have more laughs'</a>Having sat with this a bit now I think the biggest impact of this testimony may be something different and more general. Many of us have assumed that the committee's work will play out like this. They did their investigating. Now they are walking us through it in a series of hearings. The public will decide whatever they will decide. A report will be issued. And that's it.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/boris-johnson-rebukes-cnn-talking-point.html" style="color:blue">Boris Johnson rebukes CNN talking point that American democracy is dying: 'Grossly exaggerated'</a>But the committee leaders have clearly been trying to use the public hearings to create a catalytic effect which furthers the investigatory process. Create a dynamic in which the impact of the hearings breaks loose more information, more testimony, more evidence. So the hearings become not just an account of what was found but a tool for advancing the investigation. They are already very focused on getting Pat Cipollone to testify.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/us-secretary-of-state-antony-blinken.html" style="color:blue">U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken says Putin has 'already failed' in strategic objective to end Ukraine's independence</a>We have all gotten used to how much the GOP and official Washington can absorb and normalize about Trump's conduct and criminal behavior. But in this testimony today I think the committee may have gotten there. I'm not sure Meadows, Cipollone and others are going to be able to continue refusing to testify. The committee has also increased pressure on the DOJ, though we don't know just what DOJ already had in the works. The pace had seemed to be quickening on that front before today. The law enforcement side of this remains largely a black box. But on the committee investigation I think they've put the holdouts back on their heels.<h2 style="margin:2pt 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:115%;break-after:avoid;font-size:13pt;font-family:Cambria,serif;color:rgb(54,95,145);font-weight:normal">See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/aoc-dodges-on-whether-shell-support.html" style="color:blue">Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dodges on whether she'll support Biden in 2024, focuses on midterms: 'That's not a yes'</a></h2></div>

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tháng 6 29, 2022

How Hutchinson Converted Skeptics To Thinking Trump Might Be Prosecuted After All

<div dir="ltr"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgbMV4kEI1zJVr6w03lMbOOOih_y716hgJ0l0LQY5LKwrFuy9M_3MdeubklSWuF0E76s10k1ZiQQdA8EClNTd441G3TPaL1fFusTMrMjZKfWkep_6t8ddfRZI0_xIpWCwO64_Zd1ksdIQYOjhn55CXwdwSAQ3dqmC3AwHtT8tuhJD6yT3l9VtlYaP2JzQ"><img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_7114837681925846802" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgbMV4kEI1zJVr6w03lMbOOOih_y716hgJ0l0LQY5LKwrFuy9M_3MdeubklSWuF0E76s10k1ZiQQdA8EClNTd441G3TPaL1fFusTMrMjZKfWkep_6t8ddfRZI0_xIpWCwO64_Zd1ksdIQYOjhn55CXwdwSAQ3dqmC3AwHtT8tuhJD6yT3l9VtlYaP2JzQ=s320" /></a> <div> </div><div>Former President Trump's speech at the Ellipse was many things — low-class, loaded with conspiracy theories, reckless.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/former-aide-cassidy-hutchinson.html" style="color:blue">Former aide Cassidy Hutchinson testifies on Jan. 6 warnings, pardon requests, and Trump trying to grab the wheel</a>But to many legal elites, it fell short of incitement.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/cnns-don-lemon-defends-questioning.html" style="color:blue">CNN's Don Lemon defends questioning Karine Jean-Pierre about Biden's mental fitness: 'It's our job'</a>But after the Jan. 6 Committee hearings — and, specifically, after Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony on Tuesday — that view may be starting to change.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/msnbc-panel-wonders-if-ginni-thomas.html" style="color:blue">MSNBC panel wonders if Ginni Thomas should be 'perp-walked' by Jan. 6 Committee</a>Multiple legal commentators and former DOJ officials who had publicly stated, before Tuesday, that Trump's activities did not meet the exacting legal standard for incitement have now changed their views.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/joy-behar-says-view-changed-when-trump.html" style="color:blue">Joy Behar says 'The View' changed when Trump got elected: 'We used to have more laughs'</a>"There's no question about intent. There are enough pieces of evidence about what Trump did that made this more likely than not," said Alan Rozenshtein, an associate professor at University of Minnesota Law and former attorney-adviser in the DOJ's National Security Division. "He tried to get the magnetometers removed, tried to get them to march on the Capitol."See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/boris-johnson-rebukes-cnn-talking-point.html" style="color:blue">Boris Johnson rebukes CNN talking point that American democracy is dying: 'Grossly exaggerated'</a>The testimony paints the picture, he said, of knowing wrongdoing by the former president.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/us-secretary-of-state-antony-blinken.html" style="color:blue">U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken says Putin has 'already failed' in strategic objective to end Ukraine's independence</a>It marks a shift for Rozenshtein, mirrored by other legal observers across the political spectrum.<h2 style="margin:2pt 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:115%;break-after:avoid;font-size:13pt;font-family:Cambria,serif;color:rgb(54,95,145);font-weight:normal">See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/aoc-dodges-on-whether-shell-support.html" style="color:blue">Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dodges on whether she'll support Biden in 2024, focuses on midterms: 'That's not a yes'</a></h2>Before Hutchinson's testimony, Trump's remarks were viewed by many as reckless, but fundamentally within the realm of political speech, evading the standard for incitement. It was, commentators argued, definitely within the boundaries granted to politicians, who frequently urge supporters to "fight" for political action.<h1 style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:24pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/nbc-washington-correspondent-yamiche.html" style="color:blue">NBC Washington Correspondent Yamiche Alcindor and former U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade join Andrea Mitchell to discuss key</a> <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/nbc-washington-correspondent-yamiche.html" style="color:blue">challenges facing the January 6 Committee ahead of their primetime hearings this week: getting a "distracted nation" to pay attention and understand what's at stake. "I think the biggest challenge for lawmakers here, as they talk about these sort of huge ideas of American democracy and sort of the experiment that we're all living in, benefiting from, possibly being brought to his knees, is whether or not they can make people care," says Alcindor. "The American public has been groomed to expect high value quick entertainment," says McQuade. "I think putting together a polished show can be very important."</a>  </h1>In January, Rozenshtein <a href="https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-presidential-immunity-january-6" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,0,0)">argued to TPM</a> that Trump's action's on Jan. 6 didn't meet the bar in part for that reason — they qualified as political speech — even as he took to "alleging a massive conspiracy and fraud on the American public."<h1 style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:24pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">ee Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/joy-behar-said-on-view-on-monday-that.html" style="color:blue">Joy Behar said on "The View" on Monday that inflation and high gas prices were a "worldwide problem" and largely blamed the baby formula shortage on Republicans.</a></h1>"It's a lie, but to me it's campaign rhetoric; that's him going to the American people, and it's what we'd want him to do if the Constitution really were under attack," Rozenshtein said.<h1 style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:24pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2021/10/who-is-sen-kyrsten-sinema.html" style="color:blue">Here's the Story with Kyrsten Sinema</a></h1>But Hutchinson added a few sentences which, for Rozenshtein, changed that calculus.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/sara-haines-asked-sen-chris-murphy-if.html" style="color:blue">Sara Haines asked Sen. Chris Murphy if the Republican Party is going further right during Tuesday's episode of "The View."</a>"Take the f-ing mags away. They're not here to hurt me. Let them in. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol after the rally is over," Hutchinson recalled Trump saying.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/joy-reid-accuses-republicans-of.html" style="color:blue">Joy Reid accuses Republicans of thriving on 'demographic panic,' says GOP wants no one to feel 'safe'</a>It's not that Hutchinson's testimony was itself a smoking gun. But it emerged after weeks of hearing which describe a coordinated, premeditated campaign to overturn the election result which culminated in an explosion of violence on Jan. 6.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/the-view-co-host-joy-behar-said.html" style="color:blue">"The View" co-host Joy Behar said Wednesday that gun laws would change "once Black people get guns in this country."</a>Her testimony in conjunction with the other hearings have changed the views of other legal commentators across the political spectrum. David French, the notable conservative attorney and never-Trumper, wrote a <a href="https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-case-for-prosecuting-donald-trump" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,0,0)">column</a> arguing that Hutchinson's testimony provided persuasive evidence that Trump met the legal standard for incitement provided by the Supreme Court in the Brandenburg case: that of stoking "imminent lawless action."See Also: <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/ana-navarro-loses-it-during-cnn-gun.html" style="color:blue">Ana Navarro loses it during CNN gun control panel: 'Get your a--es in gear and call your Senators!'</a> "He is trying to bring in not just the guns, but the people with the guns, into the mob," left-leaning Fordham Law Professor Shugerman told TPM. "It's not a slam-dunk case yet, but up until yesterday, most of what we had was political speech."See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/p/phim-tong-tu-nhan-chung.html" style="color:blue">Phim Tống Từ - Nhân Chứng</a> The difference for Shugerman, too, came with Trump's alleged "take the f-ing mags away" remark.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/p/phim-tong-tu-buc-man-bi-mat.html" style="color:blue">Phim Tống Từ - Bức Màn Bí Mật</a>"Those three sentences give you mens rea," he added — the legal term for when a person has knowledge that they're doing something that violates the law.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/p/bao-thanh-thien-1993-chieu-tren-kenh.html" style="color:blue">Phim Bao Thanh Thiên</a> Even Andrew McCarthy of the National Review, typically more interested in condemning those investigating Trump, <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/06/cassidy-hutchinsons-testimony-against-trump-is-devastating/" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,0,0)">conceded</a> that Hutchinson's testimony pointed to the former President being "culpable" for the riot.See Also: <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/cnn-correspondent-whitney-wild.html" style="color:blue">CNN correspondent Whitney Wild downplayed the violent threat against Justice Brett Kavanaugh's life and warned about political violence from both sides, after an armed man was arrested outside the justice's home, Wednesday. </a>  "It's a vibe shift," Rozenshtein laughed.See Also: <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/cnn-media-analyst-on-kimmel-interview.html" style="color:blue">CNN media analyst on Kimmel interview: Biden could use 'exposure' that isn't 'too challenging' for him</a> At the time, per Hutchinson's testimony, Trump had been informed that men armed with AR-15s and "spears" were gathering near the Ellipse. Hutchinson testified that Trump then ordered the armed men to be allowed into the crowd with their weapons. He then directed the crowd to the Capitol.See Also: <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/texas-rep-jasmine-crockett-blamed.html" style="color:blue">Texas Rep Jasmine Crockett blamed Republicans for shooting: 'The blood of these children' is on their hands</a> There's still much that's unknown about the episode including, as Shugerman pointed out, whether the Secret Service followed the order and let the armed men through.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/whoopi-goldberg-says-both-sides-guilty.html" style="color:blue">Whoopi Goldberg says 'both sides' guilty of rhetoric like Schumer's against Kavanaugh, must 'be more careful'</a>Shugerman also believed before Hutchinson's testimony that Trump hadn't met the bar for a crime. But he said that after hearing Hutchinson's testimony, he saw two elements of a criminal charge for incitement potentially met: intent, and a bad act.See Also: <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/pelosi-defends-not-passing-bill-claims.html" style="color:blue">Pelosi defends not passing a bill, claims Supreme Court Justices aren't in any danger despite assassination attempt this week…</a> "Some speech is performative, but if a president give an order to do something, that's an order," Shugerman said. "This is not just political speech anymore — an order to take away metal detectors is a concrete act."See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/former-aide-cassidy-hutchinson.html" style="color:blue">Former aide Cassidy Hutchinson testifies on Jan. 6 warnings, pardon requests, and Trump trying to grab the wheel</a>And Rozenshtein argued that for any charging decision, prosecutors would still have to weigh the same balance between protecting political speech and punishing wrongdoing.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/cnns-don-lemon-defends-questioning.html" style="color:blue">CNN's Don Lemon defends questioning Karine Jean-Pierre about Biden's mental fitness: 'It's our job'</a>"Does [Merrick Garland] think that these facts are sufficiently egregious that Trump can be prosecuted without really anyone in the future being worried that if I make a speech criticizing some congressional budget resolution, I'm gonna be liable for incitement?" he asked rhetorically.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/msnbc-panel-wonders-if-ginni-thomas.html" style="color:blue">MSNBC panel wonders if Ginni Thomas should be 'perp-walked' by Jan. 6 Committee</a>It's not clear how senior DOJ leaders like Attorney General Merrick Garland and Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco will view the testimony or if it's even new information for them.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/joy-behar-says-view-changed-when-trump.html" style="color:blue">Joy Behar says 'The View' changed when Trump got elected: 'We used to have more laughs'</a>Whether Garland has the appetite to launch such a prosecution also isn't clear. Shugerman, among others, thought that incitement to riot may not even be the applicable charge in a situation where statutes already exist that prohibit the intimidation of members of Congress.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/boris-johnson-rebukes-cnn-talking-point.html" style="color:blue">Boris Johnson rebukes CNN talking point that American democracy is dying: 'Grossly exaggerated'</a>But the description of Trump's conduct is now public, as are the concerns of those around him that they would need pardons before he completed his term.See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/us-secretary-of-state-antony-blinken.html" style="color:blue">U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken says Putin has 'already failed' in strategic objective to end Ukraine's independence</a>That, Rozenshtein and other argued, puts pressure on the DOJ to decide how it will act.<h2 style="margin:2pt 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:115%;break-after:avoid;font-size:13pt;font-family:Cambria,serif;color:rgb(54,95,145);font-weight:normal">See Also:  <a href="https://www.tranganhnam.xyz/2022/06/aoc-dodges-on-whether-shell-support.html" style="color:blue">Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dodges on whether she'll support Biden in 2024, focuses on midterms: 'That's not a yes'</a></h2>"Indictments are not just about whether the case is legally provable, but about whether its in the public interest to charge," he said.</div></div>

How Hutchinson Converted Skeptics To Thinking Trump Might Be Prosecuted After All

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“The problem we face is the distance between genuine individual integrity—as shown by Rusty Bowers—and the nature of this broader force that no one, not even Donald Trump, controls. Because in the end, the whole is greater and worse than the sum of its parts,” says Chris Hayes.

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tháng 6 24, 2022

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Former aide Cassidy Hutchinson testifies on Jan. 6 warnings, pardon requests, and Trump trying to grab the wheel

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How Hutchinson Converted Skeptics To Thinking Trump Might Be Prosecuted After All

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“The problem we face is the distance between genuine individual integrity—as shown by Rusty Bowers—and the nature of this broader force that no one, not even Donald Trump, controls. Because in the end, the whole is greater and worse than the sum of its parts,” says Chris Hayes.

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